EU: Verbot von Halbautomaten - Teil 4

[Bdave]

Deswegen ein monatliches Magazinabo abschließen bis dieser Schas eventuell (und hoffentlich niemals) geltend wird

[Bonfire]

+++ Wichtige Nachricht +++

Heute versandte Vicky Ford an die MdEPs einen Brief mit dem im Trilog geschlossenen Vereinbarungen mit dem Rat. Dieser ist noch nicht öffentlich, wurde aber durchgestochen und wir haben ihn kopiert und publiziert - zusammen mit einigen interessanten Tweets.

Vicky Ford lobte in ihrem Brief an die Abgeordneten ihre "Vereinbarung", die Modern Sporting Rifles (MSR) und große Magazine in der Kategorie der verbotenen Waffen (A) schiebt.

Aber sie kann ja auch glücklich sein: ihre britischen Wähler sind geschützt, weil sie für Ausnahmen für Kleinkaliber gekämpft hat, sowie sehr intensiv an der unpraktischen Regulierung für deaktivierte Waffen gearbeitet hat.

Nur unsere MSRs wurden zugunsten deutschen Rechts hoch 2 verkauft: Wir haben all die strikten Regeln erhalten, die die Deutschen bereits haben UND zusätzlich werden die Waffen und Magazine nach A verschoben.

Ihr wisst womöglich, dass Lufthansa und andere Fluggesellschaften, Fähren und Züge das Reisen mit "Kriegswaffen" nicht erlaubt. Dies ist die andere Beschreibung für Kategorie A. Und das finale Ziel der Feuerwaffen-Richtlinie war schon immer die totale Vernichtung aller A-Waffen für Privatleute. Das steht so ausdrücklich in der Richtlinie drin.

Denkt dran: Ausnahmen können a) jederzeit widerrufen werden und müssen b) von den Mitgliedsstaaten nicht erteilt werden. Die Feuerwaffen-Richtlinie ist Mindeststandard - sie erlaubt ausdrücklich jedem Mitgliedsstaat striktere Regeln.

Wenn ihr den Artikel aufruft, könnt Ihr euch rechts bei "Sprache auswählen", diesen auf Deutsch übersetzen lassen.

https://firearms-united.com/2016/12/13/ ... rliaments/

Hier der Brief:

Here the letter

Dear Colleagues,

I thought it would be helpful to provide a detailed update on the Firearms Directive.

European laws on firearms have been in place since 1991. Certain weaknesses and failings of the existing Directive came to light in the aftermath of recent terrorist attacks. Last November the Commission proposed a revision, however the reforms were not balanced or workable for the legitimate gun holder. There was no majority in the Parliament committee to reject outright the Commission proposals. Therefore the Parliament has been going through an amendment process which I have been leading as rapporteur. There is now an agreement in principle on key elements.

Background

The Directive sets out the conditions under which private persons may lawfully acquire and possess guns or transfer them to another EU country. The Directive also sets requirements for marking and keeping and sharing of registers.

Firearm types are defined as Category A,B or C. Category A firearms are prohibited except for certain types of individuals, Category B firearms need an “authorisation”, and owners of Category C firearms need to declare their ownership but do not need authorisation.

Salute and Acoustic Firearms

The previous treatment of so called “salute and acoustic firearms” raised security concerns. These are working firearms converted to fire blanks. Under the existing Directive in certain countries these could be sold without authorisations and some were easily re-converted to
live firearms. This type of firearm was used in Paris terrorist attacks. A cache of over 30 were discovered in the UK in 2015.

The rules covering these firearms will now be tightened. Going forward any firearm which has been converted to fire blanks must remain licensed under the same rules as its original live-firing version.

Deactivated Firearms

In order to strengthen deactivation regimes, the European Commission introduced a new Deactivation Regulation which came into force in April 2016. This sets a single standard for deactivation of firearms. However technical implementation issues have arisen and some countries are concerned that the new standard is less secure than their previous national regime.

Following pressure from the Parliament, the European Commission has now re-convened a Working Group of Experts from the European Member States to review the Regulation. The Commission has committed that a revision will be completed by early 2017.

Introduction of the Deac-Reg caused problems for legitimate holders of deactivated firearms such as historical re-enactors and those involved in film making etc, as it prohibits them from selling or transferring across borders any items deactivated prior to April 2016 unless the items are re-deactivated to the new standard, which is not technically possible in many cases.

Following pressure from the Parliament there will now be a process to assess national standards in use prior to April 2016. If the standards are accepted by the Working Group and Commission as “equivalent” then items deactivated to that previous regime will be able to be bought, sold and transferred without requiring further modification.

The Commission proposed that all deactivated firearms would become subject to the same registration and authorisation procedures as firearms. This was rejected. Instead the negotiations agreed that newly deactivated firearms should be categorised in Category C and need to be declared to national authorities while this would not apply to existing deactivated firearms.

Category A

The Commission’s original proposal added: Category A6 “Automatic firearms which have been converted into semi-automatic firearms“ and Category A7 “Semi-automatic firearms for civilian use which resemble weapons with automatic mechanisms”

These were both rejected by the Parliament. There is experience that categorising items based on the subjectivity of “resemblance” creates legal uncertainty.

Category A6

The Parliament’s initial committee approach was that “Automatic firearms which have been converted into semi-automatic firearms” should remain in Category B if the conversion was irreversible and be in Category A only if the conversion was reversible. The Parliament proposed that the Commission should develop new technical standards to define which conversions were irreversible. However, the Commission was not prepared to accept responsibility for preparing technical specifications on these conversions.

To reach agreement negotiators representing the majority of the Parliament conceded that automatic firearms converted into semi-automatic firearms should be Category A but added new authorisation procedures so that, at the discretion of the Member State, reservists, target shooters and others with special licences would be permitted to hold these. In addition a grandfathering clause is added so that existing owners can continue to own, transfer, inherit or sell these firearms to others who have appropriate authorisation. Again this is at the discretion of the Member State.

Category A7

Instead of using “resemblance” criteria both Parliament and Council proposed to add to Category A semi-automatic centre-fire firearms when a high-capacity loading device is fitted. Firearms have been categorised depending upon loading capacity already in the current Directive, and the new rules extend this approach. This only affects firearms which use centre-fire and not rimfire percussion ammunition.

The categorisation applies when the firearm and magazine is in combination together, and does not depend merely on whether the firearms is capable of having a higher capacity magazine inserted. This has been made explicit in the text for adoption.

Following lengthy negotiations, it was agreed that for long firearms exceeding 60 cm a magazine with a capacity greater than 10 rounds would be restricted, while for a short firearm the limit would be at 20 rounds.

Member States will be able to give authorisations for reservists, target shooters and others with special licences for these firearms. As for those firearms that now fall under Category A6, there is a grandfathering clause.

Status of magazines/ loading devices

Law enforcement authorities in certain countries pressed hard for restrictions on higher capacity magazines. The Council approach was to prohibit their possession but this was rejected by the Parliament as it was considered impractical to enforce. Instead it was agreed that future acquisitions of loading devices will depend upon showing a valid and appropriate license, as is already the case for ammunition, so only those with authorisation to hold category A firearms will be permitted to acquire high capacity magazines.

People who are found in possession of a high capacity magazine after a transition period and who do not have a category A authorisation will risk having their authorisation to hold firearms removed.

Special provisions for ownership

Member states will be able to give Category A authorisations to individuals for the protection of the security of critical infrastructure, commercial shipping, high-value convoys and sensitive premises, as well as for national defence, educational, cultural, research and historical purposes

Museums and collectors:

Member states will be able to give Category A authorisations to recognised museums and in exceptional and duly reasoned cases to collectors, subject to strict security measures. The collection of ammunition is permitted.

Target shooters:

Member states will be able to give Category A authorisations to target shooters provided the individual is actively practising for or participating in shooting competitions. We have worked closely with the International Practical Shooting Confederation to ensure that the authorisation covers those entering the sport as well as those already competing. The current freedom of choice of equipment used by competitors in their shooting disciplines is not restricted. To facilitate continued participation in international competitions the rules governing the European Firearms Pass will be updated to cover firearms, including Category A firearms, held by such target shooters.

Reservists:

Armed forces, the police and the public authorities are outside the scope. The provisions for authorisation for national defence also enables Member States to issue reservists with firearms.

Switzerland:

Language is introduced to cover the Swiss system based on general conscription which enables the transfer of military firearms to persons leaving the army.

Film industry:

Many film productions in Europe use firearms including deactivated firearms, purpose-built blank firing firearms as well as live firearms, usually firing blanks, all depending on the nature of the production. The Commission initial proposals would have jeopardised this but the Parliament text has re-instated the ability for special authorisations for the film
industry under strict controls.

Re-enactors:

The European Firearms Pass enables legitimate owners to move firearms across borders. This has been updated to assist historical re-enators.

Private modifications:

Hand-loading and reloading of ammunition will remain permitted. Modifications of firearms for private use are also still permitted by private owners and not restricted only to dealers or brokers.

Medical systems

The existing law states that authorisations are only permitted for those who “are not likely to be a danger to themselves or others”. The Commission suggested that medical tests should been needed for each authorisation and these should be reviewed every five years. However point-in-time medical tests are not necessarily effective. Instead it was agreed that each Member State must have a monitoring system to assess relevant medical and psychological information which they may operate on a continuous or non-continuous basis. Authorisation will be withdrawn if any of the conditions on which it was granted are no longer met, or may be renewed or prolonged if the conditions are still fulfilled. Member States can decide whether or not the assessment involves a prior medical or psychological test. This does not change national approaches or introduce new EU-wide requirements for medical testing.

Marking, Registers and Information Sharing

The current law requires firearms to be marked and registered so that each firearm can be linked to its owner. Law enforcement and Europol noted the risk of sales of parts. Going forward the essential components of a firearm also need to be marked and registered. To avoid risk of confusion the main identifier will be the mark affixed to the frame or receiver. The new marking requirements will not apply to existing firearms. Firearms of historical importance may not need markings depending on national law.

To improve information sharing, dealers and brokers will need to inform national authorities of transfers through electronic means and Member States will share information on firearms held in their country.

Next steps

The provisional deal still needs to be confirmed by the EU member states’ permanent representatives (Coreper) and by Parliament’s Internal Market Committee. This is to happen towards the end of January 2017. The draft directive would then be put to a vote by the full Parliament in a plenary session in 2017 and formally approved by the EU Council of Ministers.

It was proposed that Member States would have 15 months to transpose the new rules into national legislation and 30 months to introduce new systems for sharing of information. Members States may decide to suspend the requirement for declaring deactivated weapons and prior category D firearms for 30 months from the entry into force of the Directive.

Thanks

I would like to thank the many organisations who have assisted with technical advice including International Practical Shooting Confederation (IPSC), The European Federation of Associations for Hunting & Conservation (FACE), The Nordic Hunters’ Alliance, Federation of European Societies of Arms Collectors (FESAC), The Association of European Manufactures of Sporting Firearms, The British Association for Shooting and Conservation, Deactivated Weapons Association, Historical Breechloading Smallarms Association, The Royal Armouries, the Imperial War Museums and the Royal Museum of the Armed Forces and Military History.

With many thanks,

Vicky Ford
Vicky Ford MEP Chairman of Internal Market Committee

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Tja... ich hatte die Prozedur vor ca. 600 Seiten beschrieben. Wenn im Draft, dann isses nahezu aussichtslos, was rauszubekommen.

[d-s]

And more news from our Dear Leaders in Brussels.

Today or tomorrow, current version of consolidated text of disarmament directive should be published on Council page.
Next week, Coreper group should produce final version, which will go to IMCO and Parliament for voting.

According to background information, Coreper version will include ban on AK- and AR- families of firearms.
Detailed text is so far unknown (to people who provided this information),

[Bdave]

Heißt das jetzt, dass Coreper einfach so zusätzliche Sachen in den Trialogsentwurf reinschreiben kann? Oder machen die ihren eigenen Entwurf und das Parlament kann sich schon wieder was aussuchen?

[d-s]

I do not know the details of procedures.
But apparently yes as the information comes from MEP.

[Bdave]

So, all this trialogue seems like bullshit if there's still the possibility for further restrictions after the trilagoue's final proposition.

But hey, it's the EU ... what did we expect?

[preisi]

So funktioniert Politik in Europa:
Anlassbezogen aber komplett am Ziel vorbei und somit sinnlos, dafür aber undemokratisch, intransparent und was offiziell nach außen dringt muss nichts damit zu tun haben, was sich hinter verschlossenen Türen abspielt.
Ich kann gar nicht soviel fressen, wie ich kotzen möchte

[Armalito]

Ist das hier noch ein deutschsprachiges forum, oder...?

[Bourne]

Kann jemand die aktuellen Infos "übersetzen"? Wer darf in Zukunft was besitzen? Ich blicke da nicht mehr durch ...

[hobbycaptain]

Kann jemand die aktuellen Infos "übersetzen"? Wer darf in Zukunft was besitzen? Ich blicke da nicht mehr durch ...

zum sicherlich schon 50. Mal - das weiß noch niemand weil es noch keinen Beschluß gibt, ganz einfach.
Bisher alles nur Latrinengerüchte, die sich täglich ändern.

[DerDaniel]

Ist das hier noch ein deutschsprachiges forum, oder...?

Sprachs und hatte eine englische Signatur.

Und ja das ist ein deutschsprachiges Forum, aber keiner wird wohl so einfältig sein und für uns äußerst wertvolle Informationen unterdrücken wollen, nur weil der Autor kein deutsch kann.

[Musashi]

Trilog info

https://www.google.at/amp/www.politico. ... parliament

[DerWolf]

Kann jemand die aktuellen Infos "übersetzen"? Wer darf in Zukunft was besitzen? Ich blicke da nicht mehr durch ...

zum sicherlich schon 50. Mal - das weiß noch niemand weil es noch keinen Beschluß gibt, ganz einfach.
Bisher alles nur Latrinengerüchte, die sich täglich ändern.

Scheinst nicht auf dem Laufenden zu sein. Vicky Ford MEP hat einen Brief zum Status der Verhandlungen verschickt, der geleakt wurde. z.B.: WBK-Entzug + Totalenteignung falls "highcapmagazin" vorgefunden wird, ohne eine Kat.A Ausnahmegenehmigung für an Wettkämpfen teilnehmenden(!) Sportschützen ist fix, genauso wie max 10 round mag LW & max 20 round mag KW.

Außerdem wird mit höchster Wahrscheinlichkeit in COREPER die "Option" eingefügt, die einem Mitgliedsland (souveräne Staaten sind es ja keine mehr) die Möglichkeit gibt Gewehre der AR und AK Familie zu verbieten.


"MEP Dita Charanzová Retweeted vickyford MEP

I do not share the enthusiasm of fellow MEPs, I find possible agreement very problematic and not workable!"

[Bourne]

Kann jemand die aktuellen Infos "übersetzen"? Wer darf in Zukunft was besitzen? Ich blicke da nicht mehr durch ...

zum sicherlich schon 50. Mal - das weiß noch niemand weil es noch keinen Beschluß gibt, ganz einfach.
Bisher alles nur Latrinengerüchte, die sich täglich ändern.

Sorry, für mich hat sich das so angehört, als ob es jetzt fix ist. Und da einige hier mehr Durchblick haben als ich, wollte ich fragen, ob es mir jemand erklären kann. Mein Englisch reicht für die "Spezialausdrücke" nicht und mit dem Google Übersetzer ist es teilweise wenig verständlich ...